#1 02-11-2016 13:35:01

Ziggy
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Scott or Catherine,

Can you give me the specs for the Pedders shocks fitted to an Argyle SE?  Mine's about 2 years old. 

One of the seals blew on the last outback trip and I'm looking to replace them both.

TIA.


Sandy_shock.jpg

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Ziggy

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#2 03-11-2016 16:25:01

scottforbes
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Hi Ziggy

The part number for the shocks are as follows

GSR91600
Trak Ryder gas shock absorber

#3 03-11-2016 16:41:55

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Ah, yes, thanks Scott.

I read that off the unit.  It's the product ID.

Would you have the specifications so I can look for a more robust alternative?  Length, eye measurements etc.


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Ziggy

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#4 03-11-2016 16:50:05

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Hi Ziggy

If you take that part number into an auto shop or suspension specialist, they will be able to cross reference it against other brands and suggest a few options for you

As I dont carry those in stock, I am unable to measure eye distances for you im sorry

#5 03-11-2016 17:26:30

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Goodo.  Thanks.


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Ziggy

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#6 04-11-2016 11:22:29

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Just for info ...

I spoke with Koni and they asked for the measurements.  They don't have equivalence tables, and in the event while they have a unit that will fit with rebushing the damping is probably too firm.

Here are the numbers:

Extended length: 440mm
Compressed: 290mm
Bottom tube OD: 54MM

Eye sleeves: 12mm ID; 19mm OD; length 42mm

Waiting to hear from Bilstein and Tough Dog.

The local Pedders can supply within a day.


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Ziggy

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#7 17-11-2016 16:24:05

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This is what the better looking shock came out as ...


Sandy_shock_no_2.jpg


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Ziggy

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#8 22-01-2017 11:21:01

mitchde
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Ziggy, the shocks on my Onyx failed on our first big trip in 2015.  We had done some very rough tracks (Cordillo Downs probably did it!) and the shocks just fell apart.  We got replacements from Pioneer at the time.  These were made o'seas to Pioneer specks.  Not sure if they are still building the campers with the Pedders shock.  In any case, the new ones seem to be fine.  But I'm enquiring with EFS re suitable shocks ... I have these on my truck and they are brilliant.  My mechanic doubts there will be any issue getting a set from them.

Did you end up finding a set?  Let me know.

Cheers,   David M

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#9 22-01-2017 11:24:13

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Oh, FYI.  When I provided the shock model number to Pedders, they advised me that they are suited to Land Lovers built in the 70's and 80's!

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#10 22-01-2017 15:02:52

Ziggy
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Thanks Mitch.

No, at the factory they're fitting another cheap shock.  Can't recall the brand.

And yeah, the specs have a limited application.

The upshot was that neither Koni nor Bilstein were available with those specs and I reverted to Pedders, prepared to replace them regularly.  The bottom line is that a shock is a consumable and needs servicing or replacing.  My rule of thumb for a shock that is worked solidly is 30,000 kms.  That worked for my Dobinson rears but the fronts, with the remote reservoir, started to function erratically at 20,000 kms.

What every independent suspension crowd told me was to go for Koni for the outback.  Pity.


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Ziggy

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#11 22-01-2017 16:34:28

mitchde
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Ziggy,

I'll let you know what EFS comes up with.  Pedders shocks just don't cut it.  Mine gave up the ghost pretty much the moment we hit dirt.  I have the replacements that Pioneer provided ... they are a no-name brand that Pioneer have manufactured overseas (China!).

As for other brands, Koni are good.   But you will not get the 3 year 100k warranty that EFS have.   As for performance, I have found EFS to be great having traveled over some very rough tracks.

If I can't find a good alternative, then I'll be taking two spare shocks with me for the camper on our next long 4x4 trip.

Cheers.  DM

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#12 22-01-2017 16:55:40

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Are the EFS designed to be serviced Mitch?


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Ziggy

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#13 23-01-2017 14:27:18

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Good question.  I'm not sure, but I'll find out.
Cheers,   David M

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#14 07-02-2017 08:20:34

mitchde
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Hi Ziggy,

I've learned a great deal about suspension over the last couple of weeks and I thought you may be interested in what I've found.  Happy to discuss, but it's just too lengthy, so call me if you are interested.

Cheers,   David M  0417 584 230

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#15 18-02-2018 19:39:09

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Just thought I'd wake this thread up . I'm travelling from Melbourne to the Cape mid year and figure it would be a good time to get some spare shocks, or put some new higher quality shocks on the Gascoyne and carry the Pedders as spares.

Has anyone found some higher spec shockers to fit?

Cheers
Andrew

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#16 19-02-2018 09:55:24

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Pioneer is now getting shocks made for them. Don't know by who.  Have just fitted a pair so no track record (cough) as yet.  Talk to the Sales Manager  at the factory.


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Ziggy

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#17 26-02-2018 17:40:27

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Thanks Ziggy, will do. I guess I was just hoping to buy a branded set of shocks that I can have confidence in. I'll be happy to get rid of the Pedders though. I always thought they were the weak point in the Pioneer. Hopefully the new factory ones are up to the job:)

Cheers
Andrew

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#18 26-02-2018 18:29:07

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Yep.  David M above had the suspension on his Onyx redesigned by Pioneer and he seems to be going OK.

The Pedders is the only commercial alternative.  You could probably get custom Konis done - I had a conversation with the importer - but it would cost big time.


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Ziggy

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